"King, Heidi R." <Heidi_R._King@omb.eop.gov> 

01/08/2008 09:31 AM

	

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Ron, would it be possible to move Friday's meeting to 11:30?  Art can

join us at 11:30 -

heidi 

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:33 PM

To: King, Heidi R.

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Subject: RE: follow-up to your phone call RESEND

OK, lets review the bidding........

o     meeting on baseline set for 11:00 on Friday

o     I will talk to Kathy about setting up the Pb NAAQS RIA meeting

tomorrow

o     I would like to expand our conversation on the energy EO to

include Nathalie Simon of OPEI since they are the keepers of the Agency

guidance on EOs like this one.  If you can give me a few times which you

are available over the next few days I will coordinate with Nathalie to

arrange a conference call.

                                                                        

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Heidi

I will arrange for this baseline discussion to get on Lydia and our

control strategy experts calendars; I will also arrange for a conference

call line.  Who else will be joining us?

>> Thanks, Ron, I've included Art and Rob.

As to the Energy EO discussion, it may be best for you and I to chat via

phone so I can understand what your (or DOE) concerns are prior to

setting up a meeting.  As you can see from the writeup, the conclusion

is not so much a function of economic analysis as applicable scope.

Since this writeup was accepted during prior NAAQS RIA interagency

reviews, I would like a clearer understand of what is different here

prior to setting up a larger meeting.  Please give me a call at your

convenience.

>> That's a great idea!  I'm not sure there are concerns so much as an

opportunity to make sure we're on the same page.  We'll need to have the

interagency discussion anyway, as I want the group to be aligned on the

guidance document available at the link below, but it will be a good

chance for us to review EPA's thoughts reflected in the NPRM language.

As you are probably aware, OIRA bears the responsibility of designating

whether a regulation is a significant energy action, and the Statement

of Energy Effects would follow similar guidance to the RIA so that there

is likely not a need for additional modeling above what satisfies the

RIA.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/m01-27.html

As to the broader discussion about the Pb NAAQS RIA, I will check in

with Kathy Kaufman tomorrow on when she will be ready.  She is out at a

conference this afternoon and will not be back until the morning.  Have

you discussed a specific list of pending topics with Kathy ?

>> I would like to begin to introduce the interagency group to the Pb

RIA, in part to control expectations that this will not be as complex as

the Ozone NAAQS RIA, and also to give other agencies a chance to suggest

additional data which they might be able to contribute given the short

timelines and derth of data available to support this analysis.  I trust

that your group has done a thorough review, but given the data and

timeline constraints, I'd like to make sure we have as a group taken the

opportunity to welcome additional information while there is still time

to incorporate such contributions.  It seems particularly important

given the multi-media nature of Pb.

Thanks for your time Ron,

heidi

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:42 PM

To: King, Heidi R.

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Robert; Rodriguez.Rosalina@epamail.epa.gov

Subject: RE: follow-up to your phone call RESEND

Heidi

Got it!  Thanks

I will arrange for this baseline discussion to get on Lydia and our

control strategy experts calendars; I will also arrange for a conference

call line.  Who else will be joining us?

As to the Energy EO discussion, it may be best for you and I to chat via

phone so I can understand what your (or DOE) concerns are prior to

setting up a meeting.  As you can see from the writeup, the conclusion

is not so much a function of economic analysis as applicable scope.

Since this writeup was accepted during prior NAAQS RIA interagency

reviews, I would like a clearer understand of what is different here

prior to setting up a larger meeting.  Please give me a call at your

convenience.

As to the broader discussion about the Pb NAAQS RIA, I will check in

with Kathy Kaufman tomorrow on when she will be ready.  She is out at a

conference this afternoon and will not be back until the morning.  Have

you discussed a specific list of pending topics with Kathy ?

Ron

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                                      Adler/DC/USEPA/US@EPA, Lydia

                                      Wegman/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, David

                                      Misenheimer/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA,

                                      Darryl

                                      Weatherhead/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA,

                                      Kathy Kaufman/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA,

                                      Allen Basala/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA,

                                      Bryan Hubbell/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA,

                                      Rosalina

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                                      RE: follow-up to your phone call

                                      RESEND

Hi Ron,

Thanks for your response.  Email addresses were the same from both of

your emails, so I hope this reaches you and I'll follow up with a phone

call to make sure.

Ozone NAAQS RIA baseline for analysis:

Your first option works well, Friday 1/11 at 11am.  I have a couple of

solutions to propose, and I trust you to include the appropriate folks

on your end including Lydia and/or others.

Energy EO for Ozone NAAQS:

Let's have the meeting to review the analysis supporing the conclusion

from the NPRM as soon as possible.  Agenda: Let's review the

requirements of the EO and make sure we are all reading from the same

guidance.  While we of course all read this language from the proposal,

elements of the RIA would imply that OMB guidance might require further

Energy EO analysis, and this meeting is the opportunity to gain

alignment on requirements and expectations.

Energy EO for Pb NAAQS:

Again, let's have the meeting, but let's include additional RIA topics

in this meeting (we are due for another conversation on this RIA).  I

would like to make sure that all parties are on the same page with

respect to OMB's guidance on implementing the requirements of this EO,

and how it relates to this particular rulemaking, but I suspect this

will be a shorter conversation than the Ozone conversation.

Thanks, Ron  --

Heidi

Heidi R. King

OMB/OIRA

(202) 395-4551

 ******************************

Heidi, I got your voicemail about setting up a few meetings.   You

requested discussions on both the Energy E.O. analysis for ozone and Pb

plus a conversation on the baseline issue for the ozone RIA.   I am

going to take up the baseline issue first.

BASELINE    I presume this will be our opportunity to get Lydia and Art

together to talk per our previous conversation that this issue was ready

to raise up the management chain.   The ideal time will be from 11:00 to

12:00 this Friday the 11th.   I already have this time blocked on

Lydia's calendar for another meeting so I have high confidence that she

will be available.  She is also available after 3:30 on Friday.  Lydia

is also available from 4 to 5 on Thursday: however, I personally would

only be available until 4:45.  I would suggest this as a 3rd fallback

time.   We will have control strategy people from OAQPS and OTAQ on the

line to address any technical questions that Art may have during the

discussions.  Let me know if one of these times would work for you.

Energy EO Analysis  You indicated that DOE was interested in how our

energy impacts analysis is carried out.  I have reproduced the

discussion from the ozone NAAQS proposal RIA below.  As you can see from

the writeup, it is our determination that the setting of the NAAQS

standard is not a significant energy action as defined by the EO.  This

language is consistent with that which appeared in the PM NAAQS RIA and

was accepted as part of the Interagency review process.  Based on this I

don't believe that there is a need for a discussion.  Please let me know

if you have questions about this.

9.8 Executive Order 13211: Actions that Significantly Affect Energy

Supply, Distribution or Use  (from page 9-4)

This proposed rule is not a "significant energy action" as defined in

Executive Order 13211, "Actions Concerning Regulations That

Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use"

(66 FR 28355 (May 22, 2001)) because in the Agency's judgment it is not

likely to have a significant adverse effect on the supply, distribution,

or use of energy. The purpose of this rule is to establish revised NAAQS

for ozone. The rule does not prescribe specific pollution control

strategies by which these ambient standards will be met. Such strategies

will be developed by States on a case-by-case basis, and EPA cannot

predict whether the control options selected by States will include

regulations on energy suppliers, distributors, or users. Thus, EPA

concludes that this rule is not likely to have any adverse energy

effects and does not constitute a significant energy action as defined

in Executive Order 13211.

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To: King, Heidi R.

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Subject: follow-up to your phone call RESEND

Importance: High

Heidi, I was working within a different e-mail base when I sent this

e-mail a moment ago.  Please respond to this e-mail instead of the

previous one, the other comes from an archive database which means that

when you respond I will not see the e-mail come in.  Sorry for the

confusion.

Ron Evans

Leader, Air Benefit & Cost Group

HEID/OAQPS/OAR/EPA

Mail Drop C-439-02

919-541-5488

919-541-0839 fax

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                                      Janet Cakir/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, Ken

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                                      darryl weatherhead, Kathy

                                      Kaufman/RTP/USEPA/US@EPA, Allen

                                      Basala, Bryan Hubbell, rosalina

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                                      follow-up to your phone call

Heidi, I got your voicemail about setting up a few meetings.   You

requested discussions on both the Energy E.O. analysis for ozone and Pb

plus a conversation on the baseline issue for the ozone RIA.   I am

going to take up the baseline issue first.

BASELINE    I presume this will be our opportunity to get Lydia and Art

together to talk per our previous conversation that this issue was ready

to raise up the management chain.   The ideal time will be from 11:00 to

12:00 this Friday the 11th.   I already have this time blocked on

Lydia's calendar for another meeting so I have high confidence that she

will be available.  She is also available after 3:30 on Friday.  Lydia

is also available from 4 to 5 on Thursday: however, I personally would

only be available until 4:45.  I would suggest this as a 3rd fallback

time.   We will have control strategy people from OAQPS and OTAQ on the

line to address any technical questions that Art may have during the

discussions.  Let me know if one of these times would work for you.

Energy EO Analysis  You indicated that DOE was interested in how our

energy impacts analysis is carried out.  I have reproduced the

discussion from the ozone NAAQS proposal RIA below.  As you can see from

the writeup, it is our determination that the setting of the NAAQS

standard is not a significant energy action as defined by the EO.  This

language is consistent with that which appeared in the PM NAAQS RIA and

was accepted as part of the Interagency review process.  Based on this I

don't believe that there is a need for a discussion.  Please let me know

if you have questions about this.

9.8 Executive Order 13211: Actions that Significantly Affect Energy

Supply, Distribution or Use  (from page 9-4)

This proposed rule is not a "significant energy action" as defined in

Executive Order 13211, "Actions Concerning Regulations That

Significantly Affect Energy Supply, Distribution, or Use"

(66 FR 28355 (May 22, 2001)) because in the Agency's judgment it is not

likely to have a significant adverse effect on the supply, distribution,

or use of energy. The purpose of this rule is to establish revised NAAQS

for ozone. The rule does not prescribe specific pollution control

strategies by which these ambient standards will be met. Such strategies

will be developed by States on a case-by-case basis, and EPA cannot

predict whether the control options selected by States will include

regulations on energy suppliers, distributors, or users. Thus, EPA

concludes that this rule is not likely to have any adverse energy

effects and does not constitute a significant energy action as defined

in Executive Order 13211.

Ron Evans

