1
"
Hadaller,
Oren
J"
<
oren.
j.
hadaller@
boeing.
com>
09/
02/
2003
12:
30
PM
To:
Jeff
Herzog/
AA/
USEPA/
US@
EPA,

Alex
J
Attlesey
<
attlesa@
basf­
corp.
com>,
Tedd
Biddle
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Vamvakaris
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ag.
de>,
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Lewis
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Taucher
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Moses
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edu>,
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Hoskin
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Phelps
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"
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Gregory
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Jim
Evans
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Seely
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Ivey
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Ivey@
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com>,
Nancy
Young
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org>,
"
Serino,
Pamela"
<
Pamela.
Serino@
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mil>,
Randy
Thompson
<
randall.
g.
thompson@
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com>,
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Williams
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com>,
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Little
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Little@
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"
Organ,
Roger
J"
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com>,
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Ruske/
DC/
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EPA,
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Schaefer
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Soffrin
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Seto
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seto@
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Belian
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com>,
Mel
Regoli
<
virgil.
regoli@
wpafb.
af.
mil>,
Orga
Roger
J
<
RJOrgan@
chevrontexaco.
com>
cc:
mjoy@
aopl.
com
Subject:
RE:
Transmix
processor's
concern
re
fuel
marker
Jeff,
I
don't
know
who
is
around
today
so
I
will
give
you
some
of
my
thoughts.
I
hope
that
the
other
people
on
the
e­
mail
list
will
add
to
my
comments.

Transportation
fuels
are
not
distilled
after
they
leave
the
refinery
and
enter
the
transportation
system:
via
barge,
ship,
truck,
or
pipeline.
The
fuels
are
used
in
the
as
received
condition.
The
possibility
of
cross
product
mixing
and
contamination
by
water,
dirt,
metals,
and
unapproved
additives
must
be
continually
addressed.

The
use
of
any
makers
or
dyes
must
not
alter
the
fuel
such
that
aircraft
engine
maintenance
would
be
affected.
We
will
be
specifically
looking
to
ensure
that
the
markers
and
dyes
do
not
thermally
degrade
with
temperature
through
much
of
the
distillation
range
for
jet
fuel
(
approximately
275
F
to
575
F).
Aviation
acceptance
will
depend
on
being
thermally
stable
at
these
temperatures.

I
hope
this
helps.
I
do
not
have
the
marker/
dye
thermal
decomposition
data
that
you
requested.
Oren
Hadaller
2
Fuels
Research
Propulsion
Technology
Boeing
Commercial
Airplanes
(
425)
234­
5203
FAX
(
425)
234­
8539
­­­­­
Original
Message­­­­­
From:
Herzog.
Jeff@
epamail.
epa.
gov
[
mailto:
Herzog.
Jeff@
epamail.
epa.
gov]
Sent:
Tuesday,
September
02,
2003
8:
37
AM
To:
Alex
J
Attlesey;
Tedd
Biddle;
Christos
Vamvakaris;
Chris
Lewis;
Claude
Taucher;
Cliff
Moses;
Dennis
Hoskin;
Don
Phelps;
Dale
Wiseman;
Frank
O'Neill;
Gus
Burmeister;
Hemighaus,
Gregory
(
GHemighaus);
Jim
Evans;
Jim
Rittenburg;
Jim
Seely;
Joe
Joseph;
Rick
Kamin;
Kent
Mansfield;
Kevin
Bly;
Kurt
Strauss;
Douglas
F.
Mearns;
Neil
Ivey;
Nancy
Young;
Hadaller,
Oren
J;
Serino,
Pamela;
Randy
Thompson;
Randy
Williams;
Rich
Little;
Organ,
Roger
J;
Ross
Ruske;
Robert
Schaefer;
Shirley
Bradicich;
David
Soffrin;
Stan
Seto;
Skip
Byrnes;
Tim
Belian;
Mel
Regoli;
Orga
Roger
J
Cc:
mjoy@
aopl.
com
Subject:
Transmix
processor's
concern
re
fuel
marker
TO:
CRC
FUEL
MARKER
TASK
FORCE
During
a
recent
meeting
between
EPA
and
the
Association
of
Oil
Pipelines
(
AOPL)
a
transmix
processor
stated
that
the
presence
of
fuel
marker
in
transmix
streams
could
limit
their
ability
to
operate
effectively
unless
the
fuel
marker
thermally
degrades
during
distillation.
I
would
appreciate
any
information
that
you
might
have
on
the
behavior
of
the
candidate
fuel
markers
during
transmix
reprocessing.

Jeffrey
A.
Herzog,
Mechanical
Engineer
United
States
Environmental
Protection
Agency
National
Vehicle
and
Fuel
Emissions
Laboratory
Assessment
and
Standards
Division
2000
Traverwood
Drive
Ann
Arbor,
Michigan,
48105
Phone:
(
734)
214­
4227
Fax:
(
734)
214­
4816
E­
Mail:
herzog.
jeff@
epa.
gov
